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Hawk loot has been reduced to make it more competitive. Thank you for understanding this change.
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Cool. Now when sack gets nerfed we can have some fun :D
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Heh, its kinda gonna nerf itself. Since even if its 10% of what you have, then instead of making 30bil, you'll make like 17 bil now. So you'll only loose 1bil per hit, compared to 3 if you were to leave that out. The simple suggestion is to just build Barracks at the beginning of the game, then work into your hawk thing. :P
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10% is still 10%, no matter what base you are working with. I think sack needs to be nerfed down to 2 or 3% before there can be any kind of strat that doesn't involve spending all your cash every run.
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Shadow I wrote: 10% is still 10%, no matter what base you are working with. I think sack needs to be nerfed down to 2 or 3% before there can be any kind of strat that doesn't involve spending all your cash every run.
I have noticed that, you have to spend all your cash for fear of it being taken with a way over board sack. 2 or 3% would be nice.
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I agree. Should definitely be reduced.
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To what? Maybe 5% or so?
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I think 2% is more than enough for troop sack. Mage steal should be the only spell that can take over 5% in one shot. It would give indiers enough of a stealing capability to fuel their runs while still allowing magers to store some cash and not have to worry about it all disappearing.
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Shadow I wrote: I think 2% is more than enough for troop sack. Mage steal should be the only spell that can take over 5% in one shot. It would give indiers enough of a stealing capability to fuel their runs while still allowing magers to store some cash and not have to worry about it all disappearing.
Hardly. While indy was boosted all in all, its still not that great. In terms of sacking as you run, I'd say farmers are going to have the biggest advantage there. But I see no reason why the %s need to be different.
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Because right now, magers have to spend all their cash. No option, otherwise they lose it all, no questions asked. It shouldn't be like that. Indiers aren't forced to market all their troops every run or lose them, so why should mage's main resource be limited like that?
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Post by windhound »

:( RIP overpowered Hawk Loot. RIP

But yeah. Sack is way too overpowered.
Aim for ~3%, same as murders

I mean, I left 500 mil cash out in the open last BFR round and all but 80 mil was taken. This happened multiple times. Its just wrong.
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Post by Death »

Just carry over the Sack change from Beta...
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Post by Arthus »

Valhall classic doesn't even have troop sacking, only mages can steal gold. I think troops should be allowed to steal gold, but only a small amount. 2-3% sounds fair. Mage sacking should stay the same cause if the shield is up, it's not very useful. Either nerf sacking or reduce it. I think a vote should be taken.
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Post by Kutolah »

Valhall only has is for the Strategy server. If you put it in CB then mage is useless. Cause then what's the point of togging when someone can steal it. Locking land I think is significantly harder in valhall's code then FAF's code so you wouldn't be able to repel other peoples attacks.
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Post by Death »

Plus, in Strategy you have to use all 4 units and you need the defenders defense points x2 for a Pillage.

But Sack is at like 3% or something in Beta right now.
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