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Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -4.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.10

Heh, Funny I scored so low on Authoritarian. I really figured I'd be more to the left, then -4 :/

windhound wrote:as far as the 'mother' question, I think it depends on the definition of homemaker. I'm thinking 'wash dishes, clean cloths, make food' over a career
if you agree with that then I think yer a tad narrow minded, maybe a century behind, but you're fully entitted to that
however, kids should always come before almost anything. that goes for mum and dad wink.gif
if you are too busy to spend time with yer son / daughter you should have thought more before creating a life thats wholely dependant on you.. just my thoughts though

and, er, if the purpose of school isnt to help people attain jobs, what is it good for?
Dicipline should be the parent's job. Socializing with peers? sure. but is that really the primary?

"What's good for the most successful corporations is always, ultimately, good for all of us."
seems silly, but then again, if a corperation is doing well they'll likely to use their extra capitol to build and hire more people, ultimatly enabling the company to make more money. *shrug*

"The only social responsibility of a company should be to deliver a profit to its shareholders."
we looked at this in econ.. in many cases this is true. should it be this way? no, I dont really think so. but is it? yeah..

my two cents


Really, it doesn't matter who stays at home and takes care of the kids as long as its done. Statically, children are closer to their mothers than fathers. Also, regardless of the time, in a marriage, the male is still responsible for the entire families welfare. That means bringing in the monies, so that his wife doesn't have to. Though, there is no reason why she can't get a job.
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I think we agree as to the mother thing. Our only differences are probably semantic. I also have an idea you don't actually think I'm a century (or a century and a half) behind modern thinking on that. :P

Well, I interpreted the questions mostly as how I feel they should be rather than are. So I put what I feel the conditions should be, rather than what they are.

As to schooling, what I would say its function is is to prepare the student for life. That's terribly broad, of course, but is already something that most American colleges don't meet at all. Of course, the standards have been decreasing the world over for nearly a century. The corporationist social model (invest in education to put on your resume, get a skill, get a job) is inadequate in so many ways.

More specifically, the job of schooling should be to instil independent thinking, a core set of values, discipline, skills for society and a job, etc. Mental and physical preparation, as a matter of fact. I've probably forgotten many. Modern schooling systems, especially in America if I compare them to the Hungarian, don't even begin to cover these, unfortunately. And the credit system destroys every last vestige of success that would have been possible toward this end.

Ultimately if you try to narrow down the scope and goal of an education, you will make it cheaper to implement. But you will also get a cheaper end result. Sad fact, but we've been living with it fine for a century, so it isn't for me to criticize. I merely disagree with it.

(Oh, nearly forgot. The American system is increasingly being adopted in other European countries. Can't speak for the rest of the world. Of course, the process needn't reach its logical conclusion.)
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Post by Gen. Volkov »

Believe I've already done this, but I'm nearly dead center. .40 right in economics, -.80 libertarian in social.
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Post by Devari »

Depending on the way I'm feeling when I take it, I may or may not fluctuate on the social scale.

Anyway, retested:

Economic Left/Right: -10.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.08

A bit less anarchist on the social scale than last time, but I'd say that can be more or less attributed to changes in mood. The economic is staying pretty constant, eh? I suppose I haven't changed that much, politically, since I last took it, but I do understand a lot of the questions much better now. Interesting to see that I remained in more or less the same position.

I think the reason they put the "crazy" questions in there is simply because the scale goes from -10 to +10. For example, they need "crazy" "leftie" questions for me to get my score of -10. Likewise, things like the corporation question are for the opposite of me - free market supporters. It really depends on your position, to see which ones are "crazy talk".

Interestingly enough, I couldn't figure out what the hell that Marx quote actually meant, the first time I did that quiz. Poor grammer, really, it doesn't communicate the idea very well. "Each person should give/work according to their ability, and receive, in return, goods and services according to their needs" or something of the sort. 'Course, they can't really mutilate the quote, but it might be best to discard it alltogether and rework the particular question. Actually, for two reasons; one, for clarity, but two, so inherent biases against Marx or Communism will not immediately overrun all thought processes involved.

As for the questions... It's nice that they generally avoid specific issues of the day, speaking in terms of broader concepts than, say, the Iraq War. On the other hand, sometimes I think the compass makes me look a tad bit extremist... I suppose my views may be, when it comes down to it, but I'm a reasonable fellow and can tolerate the opinions of others, no matter how different they may be. Furthermore, I believe in democratic change, and I believe that change can come about slowly and gradually for a better overall result. The compass does not, and can not, measure things like that.

Come to think of it, the reason I might get extreme scores is because I'm quite opinionated, and I tend to either wholeheartedly agree or disagree with a particular side on a particular issue.

'Course, the opinions of some groups freak me out, like white "nationalists", but it's part of living in a free society... You've got the nutty types out there.
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heh, i see some peeps do not know what a Libertarian is...heh...heehee...



and no: its not a Liberal...

heheheheee

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Post by Devari »

There are two different scales for Libertarian. :P

Although, in the American context, it is someone who is socially libertarian and economically a free marketer.
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I tend to be a black-and-white man myself. But I also strongly believe in authoritarianism when it comes to public interaction. I.e. I believe you're free to do whatever the hell you want in private, but behave yourself in public. (Well, over-simplified.)

Which, I gather, is simply the libertarian position taken a step further. So that swings me center-wards on the authoritarianism scale.

I'm not completely an economic leftist because of the historical examples of economies that went from far left to left-of-centre and prospered for it. I don't believe in a completely regulated economy, for instance, although I certainly believe in a hefty amount of government regulation and strong social services (as my score reflects).
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Economic Left/Right: 3.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.46

That's me.

Amazingly center, really.

Then again, I took this when I was a rather tired... who knows.
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Economic Left/Right: .25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.5

Right in line with Antonin Dvorak..... Intresting, very intresting. *is listening to 7th symphony right now*
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Man Bjorn, you're certainly an extremist.

Krapen wrote:Economic Left/Right: 100% right
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 100% Libertarian

Sexual preference 100% homo

As for me, I'm
Economic Left/Right: 3.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.14
I know the voices in my head arn't real but they usually have some pretty good ideas.
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your right puke! you are 100%homo!!!

:*laughs*:

but seriously... http://www.lp.org/ or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism

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Post by ohmyjapan16 »

Retook it. Let's see...

Economic Left/Right: 3.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 2.82
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Hey! Welcome back Japan. ^_^
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Post by Freenhult »

Took this again, after a year of college and such.

Economic Left/Right: -5.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.46


I was at
Economic Left/Right: -4.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.10
Interesting.
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Post by The Beatles »

You are demonstrating a timeless effect, described from ancient times to modern times. :)

What's remarkable is people like Tony Benn.
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