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Post by **bjornredtail** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 4:42 am

I stand corrected on nVidia driver support... Must have been looking at the wrong version.

Anways, what's with the file system choices? Or, should I have used Riser of EXT3?

Post by **Devari** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 4:46 am

Just about any filesystem is fine for home use. I use ReiserFS, but ext3 works just as well. Reiser is the default for SUSE, though.

Post by **windhound** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 5:43 am

Fedora is about the rapid progress of Free and Open Source software.

That's it. We strive to produce a quality distribution of free software that is cutting-edge, pushes the envelope of new open source technology, and is also robust enough that it can be relied on for server or desktop use. One of the terms that I really like, and that I think we're doing better and better of making a reality is that of Fedora as an "open development lab". As a user, if your priorities are cutting-edge technology (without the nicks and cuts of a blade) and freedom, Fedora is a great disto to use.

The second half of the story, as it relates to Red Hat's desire to make a profit, is equally simple in my mind. Fedora is upstream of RHEL. Fedora is also upstream of various other derivative distributions.

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DerivedDistributions

So when someone says "Fedora is beta for RHEL" they are stating only a very small part of what Fedora is. Fedora is the best of what works today. RHEL is the best of what will work for the next seven years. And the users can decide what is best for their needs.

Saying that Fedora is the beta for RHEL, and that Fedora is *only* a beta for RHEL, is to take a purposefully narrow view on the truth. Fedora's upstream relationship to RHEL is simply one aspect of the Fedora Project, which stands on its own as a distribution.

-http://interviews.slashdot.org/article. ... /17/177220
decent interview from slashdot

I installed Linspire when they released it for free as a promotion a while back.. I didnt much care for it. It absolutly babies the user.. which can be good I 'spose. at that time CNR wasnt free ofcourse, and I wasnt about to drop any cash for somthin I could get for free.. maybe its better now..

curious, what, briefly, is the difference between EXT3 and Reiser? I've always used EXT3 because its what was suggusted for the distros I've used..

Post by **The Beatles** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:10 am

ext3 syncs your data every 5 seconds, which is quite handy.

On Freespire, didn't Stallman say it was just like exchanging one tyrant for another? So much non-free stuff under the hood IIRC.

Post by **bjornredtail** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:57 am

Well, that's odd. lsmod shows the nvidia moduel loaded, yet I still have no 3d... I have reboot many, many times, but still no luck. This is trying to grab it through YOU by the way

Post by **Devari** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:59 am

Can you run glxgears or opengl programs? SaX2 doesn't know that the nvidia driver is accelerated by default.

Post by **Devari** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:03 am

The Beatles wrote: On Freespire, didn't Stallman say it was just like exchanging one tyrant for another? So much non-free stuff under the hood IIRC.

Did he? I'm not sure what exactly is non-free in Freespire anymore, at least once CNR is open-sourced as promised.

I mean, there is the commercial (But free of charge) packages (although there is a "OSS" version), but same with SUSE if you have the addon cd. But, I do wonder how much of the base system is all closed up, now that you have brought up the topic. Maybe all the migration tools and stuff like that? Must look it up..... tomorrow.

Post by **bjornredtail** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:05 am

No I cannot... Sax2 is still showing VESA Framebuffer Graphics..

Post by **Devari** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:07 am

sax2 -m 0=nvidia

Post by **Devari** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:09 am

Actually, you might want to try the manual install:

1) Kernel sources must be installed and configured. Usually this means
installing the 'kernel-source', 'make' and 'gcc' packages with YaST2.
Update it - if not already done - via YaST2 Online Update (YOU).

2) Use the nvidia installer for 1.0-8774.

sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8774-pkg1.run -q

3) Configure X.Org with

sax2 -m 0=nvidia (0 is a digit, not a letter!)

The SUSE 10.0 driver may not support your card!

Post by **bjornredtail** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:12 am

Tried, failed... I get long verbose error messge telling me various resons X may have failed to start. *looks through SaX log file*

EDIT: Oh, got double posted. Ok I'll try a manuel install... Now where did I put that file?

EDIT2: Or rather, where is GCC? The installer can't seem to find it in the path file. Looks like another trip back to runlevel 5 for a moment...

EDIT3: Okay, got GCC. Now, where are the Kernel sources?

EDIT4: I've found the problem with my current install of the NVIDIA drivers... It is an older version, that apperently does not support my card.

EDIT5: It's 2AM, do you know where your graphics driver is? YOU doesn't seem to want ot download the kernel source. Greyed out checkbox...

Post by **Devari** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 1:19 pm

Make sure make is installed. Then:

wget http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.0-OSS/inst-source/suse/i586/kernel-source-2.6.13-15.i586.rpm
sudo rpm -U kernel-source-2.6.13-15.i586.rpm
wget http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8774/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8774-pkg1.run
sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8774-pkg1.run -q
sudo sax2 -m 0=nvidia

[edit] Quote my post to get the correct command list - the forum messes up links.

Post by **bjornredtail** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 6:43 pm

Devari wrote: Make sure make is installed. Then:

wget http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.0-OSS/inst-source/suse/i586/kernel-source-2.6.13-15.i586.rpm
sudo rpm -U kernel-source-2.6.13-15.i586.rpm
wget http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8774/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8774-pkg1.run
sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8774-pkg1.run -q
sudo sax2 -m 0=nvidia

[edit] Quote my post to get the correct command list - the forum messes up links.

Okay, it says it installed the Kernel Source package, but the Nvidia installer still cannot find it at /lib/modules/2.2.13-15.11-smp/build/include/linux/kernel.h . So where did that package install the Kernel sources to? I went pokeing around /lib/modules/2.2.13-15.11-smp/build/, but I couldn't see any directories in there.

Post by **Devari** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:06 pm

Look at the version number with the path you are trying to use. The correct one is:

/lib/modules/2.6.13-15.11-smp/build/include/linux/kernel.h

After all, this is the 2.6 kernel, not the 2.2 one! Last I checked, no one ships that one anymore!

Post by **bjornredtail** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:08 pm

Typo in my post... Yes it's the 2.6 kernel.

And I have seen some distros use 2.2 or even 2.0... Just they had the constraint of fitting on a floppy disk.

EDIT: The only thing that appears in the build directory is a file called Module.sysvers.

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