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Post by The Beatles »

If there is any margin of possibly discussing just the film SiCKO and not Michael Moore or the American health-care system, then let's give it a shot here.

I just saw the film last night, and coincidentally MM on Jay Leno's "Tonight Show" later in the evening. Now, I thought it was a brilliantly edited and quite moving film -- this from someone who is very rarely moved at films. I didn't actually cry when I heard the poor woman's testimony who denied a life-saving operation to a patient, but it was the closest since "Born Free". :P

Anyways, I think it is a very effective film because it is so well edited. I personally think it's his magnum opus, and he's unlikely to top it. It is of course purely an argument to emotion and humanity (shades of Tony Benn there and in his interview on Leno), rather than anything fiscal. Well, it takes the time to debunk the conservative claptrap about how universal healthcare would mean the state with howitzers on every corner that Ronald Reagan narrated. :P And there is great comparison to other systems, etc. etc., but it is fundamentally an appeal to human feeling. This was illustrated yet again during his interview. When asked whether the rich would still be able to buy private insurance under his ideal system, he replied to the effect that how can the rich buy themselves so good healthcare when all the poor are not provided for.

Tony Benn was brilliant, of course. He does rather seem to have influenced Moore, because Moore almost explicitly echoes Benn's statements in the film about a demoralized and ill and overworked population being easy to control -- stating his goal is to speak for those who are demoralized, etc.

Anyways, I highly recommend the film, even if you know in advance you are going to disagree with it. The film is very, very good, and Benn is worth catching too.

Now let the wrath of the free-market capitalists be upon me! :P

[edit] Oh by the way, there was applause at the end in the theatre, which is fairly rare for a film of any sort. That may, of course, have had to do with the content rather than the work.
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I'm not going to see it because I don't like Michael Moore, and I don't like how he does his films. His documentaries are what I like to call "(Profanity is a sign of Maturity) with a camera". Not that appealing to me, and I don't like to watch biased "documentaries" anyway. The BBC, Discovery Channel, and the History Channel may not always be totally unbiased in their documentaries, but even at their WORST, they are still better than anything I've seen from Moore. I simply refuse to watch any more of his films.

As for applause, I've been in five movies where the audience applauded at the end. The three Lord of the Rings films, the 2003 King Kong, and and Transformers.
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Post by Kraken »

meh, if the movie was made by anyone else who wasnt notorius with the clip clip snip snip manipulation method i might of had some inkling of a desire to see it.
obscenely enough; my wife wants to see it :(
which means i will have to....watch it...
but!
why discuss it?
we know where we all stand on the issue so the discussion is the point of mootess deluxe.
and you damn Hungarians, to cry at such a thing... :D
all about FAVRE, come on...you know you want to click it

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