Losses - out of proportion?

[Ruddertail]

Your army destroyed Quel'Thalas's defenses and captures 1,048 acres!
In the effort, you lost:
125,986 Spearmen
In their defense, Quel'Thalas lost:
28 Cavalrymen

Your army trounced Quel'Thalas's defenses and captures 712 acres!
In the effort, you lost:
59,949 Spearmen
In their defense, Quel'Thalas lost:
17 Cavalrymen
Quel'Thalas has 21,346 acres of land left.

Your army trounced Quel'Thalas's defenses and captures 279 acres!
In the effort, you lost:
69,258 Spearmen
In their defense, Quel'Thalas lost:
8 Cavalrymen


Is it just me, or are those losses ridiculous? I don't care how much def Xp he has, there's no way he should be inflicting that kind of loss ratio... Even with him at 100% guards, it seems... off.

[Freenhult]

Yeah. I was taking note of that earlier. My 28mil mice all died attacking one person as I was taking loses over the mil mark per hit.

Not sure what happened, but that seems a bit extreme.

[The Beatles]

If he has many guards, it's possible that they are the only ones inflicting the losses, and he doesn't actually have that many troops to lose in the first place.

By the way, this is unscaled, right? Old-style values?

[Death]

In order to make an informed opinion, you should probably include your troop cound and the defenders troop count. Just so we have all the information.

[Freenhult]

I'm talking in terms of what we have now Beatles. My display says 15mil mice. Its crazy to constantly lose hundreds of thousands for no reason.

[Death]

That really depends on how many the defender has. I mean am I crazy or wouldn't you lose more troops the more you have fighting against a large amount of enemies?

This is where Prom player laziness comes in. You do not have to send every single unit you have in an attack, and if you did not you would not be getting these losses. It is your own fault, but it's a pain in the ass to do it the other way.

[Freenhult]

This is where Prom player laziness comes in. You do not have to send every single unit you have in an attack, and if you did not you would not be getting these losses. It is your own fault, but it's a pain in the ass to do it the other way.

Yes you do. You must crush them into the ground.

[The Beatles]

It works out in general -- same loss ratio. That only works if the defender has significantly better experience.

[Arthus]

Well I feel if you are lets say attacking with 24mil infantry, agaisnt 14mil infantry, andf you lose around 2 mil mice per attack when the defender loses like 700k, thats insane. You'll end up losing soon even though you almost doubled his troops. This has happened to me, numbers aren't the same but close enough.

[Freenhult]

Your army trounced shadow warriors's defenses and captures 816 acres!
In the effort, you lost:
1,120,111 Spearmen
In their defense, shadow warriors lost:
66,334 Warriors

... Not only do I have more Exp, but I have millions more mice than him. I shouldn't be losing 1/20 of my force in ONE attack.

Your army annihilated Shadow's defenses and captures 759 acres!
In the effort, you lost:
1,432,175 Spearmen
In their defense, Shadow lost:
194,997 Pikemen

Again...

[Death]

Maybe you can try not hitting "send max" being as you have so many more?

[Death]

My apologies, this is actually much bigger of a problem than I thought. Just today I was getting losses of nearly half a million, while the defender was getting losses of less than 2 thousand. He was a Mage, so there was no way for me to figure out exactly what would break other than failing attacks getting a feel, which would have filled their hitlimit causing me to get a (Profanity is a sign of Maturity)ty run, so I think we should bring this back up.

[Shadow I]

My apologies, this is actually much bigger of a problem than I thought. Just today I was getting losses of nearly half a million, while the defender was getting losses of less than 2 thousand. He was a Mage, so there was no way for me to figure out exactly what would break other than failing attacks getting a feel, which would have filled their hitlimit causing me to get a (Profanity is a sign of Maturity)ty run, so I think we should bring this back up.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but disproportionate losses like that generally mean they have a large amount of T1 and some towers, and relatively few of the other troops. Towers make losses quite high as far as i know.

I don't think that means it's broken, since the turns it takes to put up to towers detract from the productive part of the run, so there should be some benefit beyond basic DP.

[Freenhult]

No, he's right. There is a problem. 40,000 boats to 26? No. Thats not towers.

[Death]

Shadow even if that was only towers, don't you think obliterating the networth of the person trying to run turns might be a bit much?