Echoes

[windhound]

I disagree.
If we want the game to grow, we need to attract -new- people. You might get 5 vets to come back if you ask nicely... that aint much. That's not game growth.

And you speak of roleplaying as a bad thing Shadow. Why?
I think its unsustainable here, but I dont view it as a negative.

I'm not talking about painting the homepage pink, or even changing the game's main theme (though it should be looked at if naught else). I'm talking about making it friendly to people who know nothing about the site and would potentially like to know more.
Something more like http://www.redwallwarlords.com/turbo/ ...only working properly. Sticker is, again, in the process of fixing. But it a good example. The login buttons, menu, everything is still there. But in addition there's an intro to the site and places to click to learn more.

[Devari]

I'd love to see both the recruiting of new players AND the re-attraction of the vets. There's nothing saying we can't do both.

The RWL page looks like HELL on Firefox, but windy's point is good - a more friendly homepage is certainly needed.

As an aside, it might be nice to get that global account thing working one of these days; I see it as a way of reducing complication and making signing up for a new round far easier.

[Devari]

Also: We lost the old players because the game became stagnant. Revitalise the game, and we should see them come back.

[Freenhult]

Either way, this is a huge time project. Does anyone realistically have that amount of time to invest in this?

[Devari]

Not at the moment, but, realistically, we're only in planning stages. It's good to get a flow of ideas going. Besides, not all of these things involve massive code changes. It's mostly stuff we can share across many people. I'd rather get this started before the game truly croaks.

Could everyone report in with a summary post of what their suggestions thus far are? Doesn't matter if they were disagreed with; I'd just like to see a list of what you guys have suggested.

[Devari]

Also: For those who have contact with our "oldbie" squad, would you mind trying to get some of them into this topic? The more people, the better.

What's the general feeling on a theme shift? As a blanket idea, are we for or against it? Do we have any particular suggestions yet? The only one I've heard is to shift towards something with a large fanbase; which may or may not work, given the deluge of unsuccessful games based around several large franchises.

[Slasher]

everyone go back to page one and stop ignoring my suggestion - that has to be original for a promisance game!!!

BTW: http://www.redwallwarlords.com/turbo/ is broked in opera

[The Beatles]

The old good players are a hopelessly small bunch. No, it's best to get fresh blood and keep them interested and enthusiastic and pretty soon you've got a brand new lot of good and dedicated players.

I mean we all started as newbies, and not so long ago either.

[Freenhult]

I am enjoying the little 40-90 player Prom I play quite nicely. All you have to do is break away from the general Promisance community and find a theme that works. Well and have a game that is fun to play, but aside from how easy landlocks are here you guys have that part well covered.

Here's a helpful hint though, new players are interested in empire management and diplomacy, not scraping land and losing it 30 minutes later.

This is true enough. By god men, we already partly solved this problem. Reducing land grab amounts...Cities...Whatelse have we already discussed and approved? How about we DO what we agreed to do forever ago first. THEN we can do this new stuff as we go. A theme change and the suggested and approved suggestions first.

I oppose any other ideas at the current time until we evaluate our prior ideas.

[The Beatles]

We can evaluate and committee them till kingdom come but that won't get any of them done. We should know, we've been doing that for the past 2-3 years or so.

[Freenhult]

The point is we already have. We just gotta DIG THEM OUT. Now. Who's got a shovel? Other than Bjorn and I?

[The Beatles]

The point is, who's going to do them, even if you dig them out?

[Freenhult]

Which was my first question as soon as Devari started talking about this. I can code you Fortran now like non other. So if we needed a new system for calculating junk well. Give me a few more weeks to finish up the class and I'll write you a damn solid program. But apart from that I don't know.

[The Beatles]

INTEGER MYHARES, YOURHARES, MYLAND, YOURLAND
IF (MYHARES .LT. YOURHARES)THEN
MYLAND = MYLAND + 500
YOURLAND = YOURLAND - 500
END IF
STOP

*shudder*

[Freenhult]

INTEGER MYHARES, YOURHARES, MYLAND, YOURLAND
IF (MYHARES .LT. YOURHARES)THEN
MYLAND = MYLAND + 500
YOURLAND = YOURLAND - 500
END IF
STOP

*shudder*

Endif
End

Lulz.