Well, the author did put small hints that to me, made it clear that snape wasn't actually evil, though many other people I knew thought that he might be evil, so you can say I suspected, you are right, considering I do not know the author personally, I could have been mistaken, but I wasn't, so yeah.
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During an interview, Rowling said that Ron and Harry become Aurors(not sure on the spelling) and revolutionalize the practise. And Hermione is in charge of the magical law enforcement department.
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"wotcher" == "what up"
It's derived from the same stem, too: "what" (pronounced "wot").
As for the ending: I haven't of course read the books. But most losses are immaterial to the happy ending. What else can you call it if all three main characters survive without so much as bruising, one of them after being resurrected? Contrived happy ending, it's a step further than a fairy tale ending.
It's derived from the same stem, too: "what" (pronounced "wot").
As for the ending: I haven't of course read the books. But most losses are immaterial to the happy ending. What else can you call it if all three main characters survive without so much as bruising, one of them after being resurrected? Contrived happy ending, it's a step further than a fairy tale ending.
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Artus: yes, the clues were there, but they were...muddled and quite confusing at times. especially when Snape killed Dumbledore.
but! that was all apart of the plan and indeed, when she pulled it all together in the end: it made for quite a good mixture of suspense.
Ron and Hermonie Auror's? that sounds about right. i always thought that Harry would become the eventual DA teacher. that would of been cool
Beatles: thanks for the clear up. Wotcher! ha! i dig it!
without so much of a bruising indeed! do read the books and contrive your own conclusions about that instead of reading someone elses thoughts! pah!
death!
potter was not "ressurected"! he came back on his own accord!
but! that was all apart of the plan and indeed, when she pulled it all together in the end: it made for quite a good mixture of suspense.
Ron and Hermonie Auror's? that sounds about right. i always thought that Harry would become the eventual DA teacher. that would of been cool
Beatles: thanks for the clear up. Wotcher! ha! i dig it!
without so much of a bruising indeed! do read the books and contrive your own conclusions about that instead of reading someone elses thoughts! pah!
death!
potter was not "ressurected"! he came back on his own accord!
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The Kraken, which is found primarily in Scandinavian myth, was a huge sea creature. It was said to lie at the bottom of the sea for a long time and then it would rest at the surface....Like the Midgard serpent in the Norse myths, the Kraken was supposed to rise to the surface at the end of the world.
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The Kraken, which is found primarily in Scandinavian myth, was a huge sea creature. It was said to lie at the bottom of the sea for a long time and then it would rest at the surface....Like the Midgard serpent in the Norse myths, the Kraken was supposed to rise to the surface at the end of the world.
No, Hermione is in charge of the magical law enforcement squad, she herself is not an auror. Harry and Ron are.
To Beatles, considering during one scene they were almost burned alive, I would imagine that they would have got some marks or something. And we are talking about magic here, not a punching match. They wouldn't have been bruised, they would have been cursed. And considering you admit to not having read the book, how can you even make these remarks? It's like me not having watched a movie and quote how stupid a scene was.
To Beatles, considering during one scene they were almost burned alive, I would imagine that they would have got some marks or something. And we are talking about magic here, not a punching match. They wouldn't have been bruised, they would have been cursed. And considering you admit to not having read the book, how can you even make these remarks? It's like me not having watched a movie and quote how stupid a scene was.
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Arthus, by bruising he meant more or less on the side of overall injury. Your right. They have no physical bruises, but the event itself takes a toll on their bodies, ect.
Nami kotogotoku, waga tate to nare. Ikazuchi kotogotoku, waga yaiba to nare. Sōgyo no Kotowari!
波悉く我が盾となれ雷悉く我が刃となれ,双魚の理 !
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波悉く我が盾となれ雷悉く我が刃となれ,双魚の理 !
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You're right. Any ending that does not end in the main characters being horrible crippled or paralysed for life means its a fairy tale ending. They were hurt, yes, not permanently damaged doesn't mean anything. Why would they be? Many characters died, the fact that 2 of the main characters weren't even in the big battle at the makes sense that they weren't seriously injured. And Harry not being seriously injured, well, if you read the book, it might make a little more sense to you. Seeing how you read only a plot summary, I won't bother going into a debate about it.
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Yes, that's how I see it. (I know this puts Tolkien in a position to be called a fairy-tale too, but I'd argue that a. it partly is and b. a lot of the main characters either die or go West at the end.)Arthus wrote: Any ending that does not end in the main characters being horrible crippled or paralysed for life means its a fairy tale ending.
As you say, there's no point arguing about it. The odds were on them dying anyway, but they didn't die. That's standard in fantasy, but resurrection, I think, is over the top.
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Well, Harry couldn't buy the farm with Voldemort still alive. If he had gotten rid of the last Horcrux and through his death he would have also killed Voldemort, then I could see it happening that way. Personally I would have liked that ending better. The way Rowling did it though, it was bloody obvious that Harry wasn't going to die.From what I understand, there could have been some pathos to it if Harry buys the farm, but as it is, he got the classic fairy-story happy ending. Eh well.
Arty, Kraken, he's right, that cheesy epilogue was right out of the Brother's Grimm. He got a fairy tale ending. That's fine with me, but I don't try to deny what it obviously was.
Tolkien's better, but then his work is for adults, not kids. No comment on the charge of the house-elves.My understanding of the plot of the book was that the elves have their own special kind of magic that often transcends or trumps that of the humans'. So why in the world would they charge like so many 10-year-olds, waving forks and knives, instead of using their abilities...? Anyway, if you want consistency in fantasy, Tolkien's a few notches better.
Snape, well, I predicted that there would be some last minute redemption for him. I almost thought I was wrong though partway through the book.
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argh! enough with Tolkien!
Frodo lost a finger and Sam got his girl! what the hell does going west have to do with anything!? if you were a reader of Tolkien you would understand that the West is where thier gods are and where the Elves are in refuge; the land of the two trees and one of my favorite of thier gods: Tulkas. read The Silmarillion. pah!
but! you cannot say that Frodo destroyed the Ring without help! indeed, many perished for the end result and many were changed or harmed to get to said result!
Just like in the Potter books. many Many main characters died. Everyone that Harry loved besides his two closests friends died. Sirus Black, Albus Dumbledore, Lupin, Tonks, Mad Eye Moody even his damned pet Owl bit the dust! Not to mention that he was a Orphan and walked freely to what he suspected was his own death!
Tolkien wrote The Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings not as children books; but as books in general. The Hobbit was geared more for the young minded sure: but the Potter Books were all geared for children.
But to think that what Harry went through left no scar is simple minded folly on anyones part who thinks it.
Book 5 & 6 were both terribly sad because of what happened and the seventh book was by far the most horrible in plot twists and death.
fairy tale indeed!
read the damn book beatles, reading the plots isnt sufficent. its like those who only watch the movies and think that they can be satisfied with the knowledge of what has occured and as to why.
Beatles: Harry died. Voldamort did the killing curse on him and then he was in...a sort of limbo with Dumbledore. Dumbledore gave him a choice in which he could either go back to the land of the living or move on to the other side. Harry chose not to go to the other side and if you READ the book you would understand why. Voldamort came back as well as a result but that was because there souls where intertwined... The very fact that he knew that he had to die and then willingly went to it is quite astounding and if you do not read it: you will not understand it.
Volkov: more "main" characters died off in the Potter books than in Tolkiens Trilogy.
Frodo lost a finger and Sam got his girl! what the hell does going west have to do with anything!? if you were a reader of Tolkien you would understand that the West is where thier gods are and where the Elves are in refuge; the land of the two trees and one of my favorite of thier gods: Tulkas. read The Silmarillion. pah!
but! you cannot say that Frodo destroyed the Ring without help! indeed, many perished for the end result and many were changed or harmed to get to said result!
Just like in the Potter books. many Many main characters died. Everyone that Harry loved besides his two closests friends died. Sirus Black, Albus Dumbledore, Lupin, Tonks, Mad Eye Moody even his damned pet Owl bit the dust! Not to mention that he was a Orphan and walked freely to what he suspected was his own death!
Tolkien wrote The Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings not as children books; but as books in general. The Hobbit was geared more for the young minded sure: but the Potter Books were all geared for children.
But to think that what Harry went through left no scar is simple minded folly on anyones part who thinks it.
Book 5 & 6 were both terribly sad because of what happened and the seventh book was by far the most horrible in plot twists and death.
fairy tale indeed!
read the damn book beatles, reading the plots isnt sufficent. its like those who only watch the movies and think that they can be satisfied with the knowledge of what has occured and as to why.
Beatles: Harry died. Voldamort did the killing curse on him and then he was in...a sort of limbo with Dumbledore. Dumbledore gave him a choice in which he could either go back to the land of the living or move on to the other side. Harry chose not to go to the other side and if you READ the book you would understand why. Voldamort came back as well as a result but that was because there souls where intertwined... The very fact that he knew that he had to die and then willingly went to it is quite astounding and if you do not read it: you will not understand it.
Volkov: more "main" characters died off in the Potter books than in Tolkiens Trilogy.
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The Kraken, which is found primarily in Scandinavian myth, was a huge sea creature. It was said to lie at the bottom of the sea for a long time and then it would rest at the surface....Like the Midgard serpent in the Norse myths, the Kraken was supposed to rise to the surface at the end of the world.
~Beatles..."I'm sorry, but I really can't see anything redeeming in your philosophy other than that dinosaurs are cute."
The Kraken, which is found primarily in Scandinavian myth, was a huge sea creature. It was said to lie at the bottom of the sea for a long time and then it would rest at the surface....Like the Midgard serpent in the Norse myths, the Kraken was supposed to rise to the surface at the end of the world.
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Kraken, that's what a fairy tale ending means. Bad things happen, the hero is scarred, but he ends up winning and lives happily ever after. I mean, come on, the last words in the 7th book echo that precisely. "The scar had not pained Harry for 19 years. All was well."
About "Going into the West", it is generally considered to be a metaphor for dying. It may not represent actual death, but they are leaving the world, never to come back, and joining their god in what is effectively heaven.
Your point? People dying is not why I think Tolkien is better.Volkov: more "main" characters died off in the Potter books than in Tolkiens Trilogy.
About "Going into the West", it is generally considered to be a metaphor for dying. It may not represent actual death, but they are leaving the world, never to come back, and joining their god in what is effectively heaven.
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