foremolethomas wrote: It said in the bible that homosexuals are abominations to god, there for they are deemed to eiternal suffering, and no, gays are not hurting me but I fell that I can at least help them into a relationship with jesus so they wouldn't go to hell, it is my duty as a human and as a christian to do this, also people get the idia that god hates gays, he dosen't hate anybody, it's gays that hate him, by being gay you are comiting a act of hatred against god.
Actually, thats not true. The church has done that damage over the years by lets see... Killing them, uh. Killing them, making fun of them, killing them, banning them, killing them some more. Makes you wonder who's more divine, gays or the Church.
Foremorethomas, the Bible is not a literal piece of work. I can see that you are a pious man, and that is a good thing. But blind faith will just get you into trouble. God does NOT want you to walk around spreading the good deeds that you do to try and convert people. Look back into the story of how Jesus talks about the men in the Temple that give money and brag about it, or how they have done deeds and brag about it in town. Each time, Jesus tells us that -that- is the wrong approach to dealing with spreading the idea. If people are to follow Christianity, then it will be through our actions than words. If people see us being good Christians, then they will like what they see and want to follow the faith.
Now, with that being said, how do you expect a Gay/Lesbian to want to follow a faith, that directly insults their body? Its perfectly understandable that they don't want to. And well, I want you think about this too. Where does the Bible say what you must do to be saved. Minimum criteria at least? Nothing, not even the Church, which is -not- a divine body cannot even begin to contemplate that. SO, there is no reason that a perfectly law biding, good hearted person who is gay, can't be saved.
he dosen't hate anybody, it's gays that hate him, by being gay you are comiting a act of hatred against god.
Heh, OT God vs NT God. Ever wonder why the God in OT told the jews to kill off people so they could get land, and all of a sudden the NT God is so loving and caring through Jesus? I don't believe that Jesus -ever- speaks against gays/lesbians. Infact, I'm sure he sits with them repeatedly like he did tax collectors. As a Christian, it is your first duty to study and understand the Bible. Expecially if you're going to talk like that. The God of Jesus is a god of Love, not hate, and his patience is infinite. Even if these people are doing such sins against God, I'm sure you're not sinning on a daily basis either. A sin is a sin, and you have sinned and they have sinned. You have no right to say that their sins are greater than yours for you have sinned. Do not try to play God.
Nami kotogotoku, waga tate to nare. Ikazuchi kotogotoku, waga yaiba to nare. Sōgyo no Kotowari!
波悉く我が盾となれ雷悉く我が刃となれ,双魚の理 !
Every wave be my shield, every lightning become my blade!